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We....We will never learn. Famine, pestilence and war...All used to keep us in check. Good write on a frustrating subject.

TB

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, September 07, 2009 (12:03:03)

Hello TB, it never ceases to amaze me that, we consider ourselves to be the superior species, yet we still can not cease the churning cycle of death and destruction that goes on and on and on. Thanks for the comment my friend, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by wildbrushfire on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 (03:24:45)

It's a nasty cycle isn't it? An intelligent man once said, "The only thing man learns from history is that man doesn't learn from history."


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, November 17, 2009 (14:36:53)

Dear wildbrushfire, it is an all consuming cycle indeed, and the man, of whom you quote, showed wisdom beyond his years. It is quite unfathomable that, despite thousands of years of conflict, devastation, cessation, reflection, amendment, we still end up doing the same, again, again and again. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Leggolas.


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It is sad but I dont think we will ever learn. All throughout the history of mankind we've killed and hurt people for our own "needs, pleasure" and many to there "advantage". It is a shame but we are becoming worse. I would like to think that there is hope but I just dont see it. Sad that our children and grand children must grow up in a world filled with so much grief and hate.
Glad to see youre writing again! Excellent poem!

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, September 07, 2009 (13:40:15)

Dear Jenna, the sad reality is as you say, that the lessons are never learned. Time upon time, we make the same mistakes, yet never does it seem to dawn that this is not the way forward for mankind. Our children and our childrens children deserve a better existence than the one we are preparing for them. What will it take for the message to penetrate that it is time for a change to secure a better future for us all. Thankyou for your comment my friend, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Noden on Monday, September 07, 2009 (13:41:06)

Mark you speak words of Lennon and the rest of his voices that are all trying so hard to find peace. But to dismay none so far. It's truly a pleasure to come read you again. Glad you are feeling better my dear friend...<grin>


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, September 07, 2009 (14:11:35)

Dear Ali, thank you for your inspiring words, we can only hope that one day realisation will dawn. Thank you for your words my friend, they are much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Mankind will never learn. That just what it is...sad.

Great piece! <3

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, September 07, 2009 (13:47:10)

Dear Coma.White, I fear that such is true, and this sadness hangs above the world, casting a despairing shadow upon each and every occupant. Surely the time for reflection has arrived for those that have caused so much pain and misery. Thank you for comment my friend, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Mark,
Bravo--wonderful piece! Love the rhythm and rhyme scheme...very unique and clever. Lessons never learned-the ying and yang of human nature....it seems, if we view history, there is really nothing new under the sun....
Good vs evil....may good triumph one day---and in your life today-
Rhoda

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (10:57:26)

Dear Rhoda, I'm so glad you enjoyed, and it is as you say, nought but a repetition of mistakes and renewed atrocities, hence the question, when?, or maybe more importantly why does mankind never learn? Thank you for your comment my friend, as ever, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Eloquent from beginning to end, my good friend Leggolas.
"The world is full of idiots"... speaks from deep frustration with a system that rewards greed as it ignores human need. Brave, Mark. Peace, Mary Ann

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by maryanns on Monday, September 07, 2009 (20:16:34)

Sorry - I meant to say "Bravo", as in ... well done.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (11:09:25)

Dear Mary Ann, I endorse your sentiments entirely, for the frustration you feel is but one of many ripples, part of a wave of disillusionment that is sweeping around the world. Thank you for your comment my friend, as ever, it is much appreciated. P.S I don't mind brave or bravo LOL. Fond Regards. Mark.


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great write - very eloquent indeed from start to finish.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (11:17:11)

Dear thewholesoul, thank you for the complimentary comment, it is much appreciated, glad you enjoyed. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Very good, love the imagery here

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (11:22:21)

Dear §ylnzer, I'm so pleased my poem evoked such vibrant images for you. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Leggolas.


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This was very well written and its sad it has to be this way
But our Heavenly Father tell us of these things
so it goes to show that everyone needs to do their part
and have faith that some day God will make the change.
This is a real eye opener thanks Mark very well done
Sincerly mtpoet

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (11:32:53)

Dear MTPOET, thank you for your compliments, they are much appreciated, I think you have grasped the essence of the only way in which this world can become a better place, and that is "everyone needs to do their part", from the loftiest to the lowliest, before it is all too late. Thank you so much for your comment. Fond Regards. Mark.


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so happy to see you have posted again my friend. hope you are well.
your work is always so perfectly penned (poetically correct) that I know you spend many an hour on each piece before posting. I stand in awe at your worthiness to be called poet and you truly are .
there is no answer to your Question. I think all know but choose not to practice what we know to be the way whether for political or for some monetary reasons and many religious reasons. for every wrong there is an excuse . There will never be an end to it for as many reasons as there are ill deeds. We can only pray that one day man can live together as one in a peaceful harmony through faith and love of mankind.. Melly

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Melly on Monday, September 07, 2009 (23:20:23)

Ok A senior moment.. I have had quite a few lately. At least I signed my name.. A heart


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (11:41:34)

My Dear Melly, you can share a senior moment with me anytime you like my friend. Alas, I fear that your words of wisdom are all too accurate and that notion leaves such a huge void of sadness within me, for what kind of a future are we leaving for all those that are yet to come. Thank you for your kindness and compliments, they are, as ever, much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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I endorse the sentiments and I like a lot of the imagery, but I am a bit puzzled by some of the phrases like "mind spigots", "biled discern" and " their smoulder and inurn". Makes it a bit unnecessarily obscure, I think.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (12:14:31)

Dear Ozymandias, your endorsement is well received and I'm glad such imagery was evoked. As for those elements that puzzle, they are an integral part of the poem. "paralysing mind spigots", refers to those that sleakly seek to plug clarity of thought by the process of verbal discimination wrapped in a syrupy guise that appeals to those that feast upon its content, but also allures those weaker and more vunerable to its vibrant throng, hence "spew sweet biled discern". "dawn’s broken remnants clasp their smoulder and inurn", refers to the aftermath, for the those that are left behind are left to salvage smouldering fragments of their life, burying those loved and lost upon the way. I hope this clarifies the intent of that written. May I thank you for your incisive comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by summergirl911 on Thursday, November 12, 2009 (16:17:36)

I interpreted those parts of your poem as you intended. "paralysing mind spigots" are everywhere you turn. They are in every aspect of LIFE. We have to make sure that we clean our own pipes though (har har) and not be gullible and fall into what everyone else thinks, just because they say it's so.
{run on sentence there!}


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Saturday, November 14, 2009 (06:03:08)

Your interpretation is indeed inciteful. Thank you for your comment summergirl911, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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glad to see you writing again
and i love this poem
men will never learn my dear friend
and by the time they do....its to late

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (13:14:57)

Dear Libby, I'm so glad you enjoyed. Thus is such, as was and most likely will always be. Thank you so much for your comment, it is, and will always be, much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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G'day Mark...
As long as humanity keeps taking more than it needs then it will never learn. So much is lost for the wont of greed.

Another great message Mark.

Lindsay

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (13:26:48)

Dear Lindsay, veritable words indeed, that all mankind should heed. Thank you for your comment my friend, as ever, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Wow this is a very good both...and alot of truth in it as well...well done

Wow this is a very good both...and alot of truth in it as well...well done

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 (14:24:51)

Dear Dreaming-Demon, I'm so glad you enjoyed, its contemporary truth is painfully prevalent. Thank you for your comment my friend. It is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Well..what's left to be said that already hasn't, Mark? It will have to suffice that I am in total agreement with the others. The way you use words to get your ideas across is so skillful. You always awe me.
Hey! I have an idea. You should think about writing poetry!! YEAH!! What a novel idea, huh??? TEE HEE!!!

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 (13:39:41)

Dear Julie, LOL, do you know? I think I'll give your idea some thought LOL. Thank you so much for your compliments, they do mean a great deal to me, and they are truly appreciated. Thank you my friend. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Great write Leggolas. Maybe we are trying to hard to learn and be superior and righteous. Lao-tzeu once said,

The cold defines what is hot
The honest defines the thief
The good defines the evil.

The ends will forever justify the means. Even in this very legislated world there are loopholes for snakes to live. I say let them live or die. Your penmanship is so compelling. Thank you for the bitter yet truthful reminder.

Mike

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, September 11, 2009 (16:47:31)

Dear Mike, thank you for such an outstanding comment, your compliments are truly appreciated. Maybe indeed we are trying too hard to learn, or is it that we simply don't pay any heed to all those lessons we should have learned time after time? Fond Regards. Mark.


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Answer: never! We will never learn! That is just the nature of things, isn't it? As soon as the older generation (sometimes) learns, they die off and there is that entire new generation to learn it all over again! Glad to see you writing again! Best wishes, Gail

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, September 13, 2009 (06:23:02)

Dear Gail, you raise a poignant point, for Life's wisdom is so often lost through tracts of time. But mans mistakes are well documented and witnessed, the instances and actions that have led to so much misery, pain, death and destruction are there for all to see, assimilate, ameliorate and rectify. Instead the cycle of devastation perpetuates to the detriment of all. Thank you my friend for your inciteful comment. It is, as ever, much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Leggolas, you are killing me with your words ( i mean in a VERY VERY GOOD WAY) !!!! Mark, you said i had to much talent to stop writing, but im not good as you, not even close!!!!!! Bravo! as always Mark, your writing is nothing but inspiring and very very very educating!!!

Sincerly your,
--Omar

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, September 25, 2009 (16:05:35)

Dear Omar, thank you for your complimentary comments. They are much appreciated and if my words inspire, then I can ask for no more Fond Regards. Mark


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as long as the voices of the idiots outnumber the voices of people who know what they are talking about 3 to 1 in the world media, i don't see a way out. imagine writing an article seven years ago, saying that banks should be brought under state control, because they were going to wreck the western economy. there were a few people who said this, but they were considered commie nuts. the same way enviromental protesters were considered 20 years ago. and the way internet users in the 80's, and 90's were thought of as star trek fans, and weirdos. people are frightened of what they don't understand. - i've a nasty feeling that it's too late - paul.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, September 27, 2009 (04:55:58)

Dear Paul, succinctly put my friend, and you may well be right in that we have reached the point of no return. What a sad, sad reflection of mankind................. Thank for your incisive words my friend. As ever, they are much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Men HAVE learned, I’m afraid, and from those lessons we have what is reflected in your imaginatively wonderful poem. My view is jaded, I know, but I see nothing on the horizon to incite my enthusiasm to the contrary. As always, your poetry is spot on!

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, September 25, 2009 (16:45:45)

Dear Ridge, a sad sombrous resonance exudes from your comment, for your words are so very true, their is nothing upon the tainted horizon but the shadows of reality. Thank you my friend for your comment, it is, as ever, much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Leggolas, this is amazing! I wrote a poem sort of like this, you saw it. It's about taking care of the earth.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, September 27, 2009 (04:59:56)

Dear Brylee123, thankyou for your complimentary comment, I'm so glad you enjoyed. Fond Regards. Mark.


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i really like it! so angry. its just right

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 02, 2009 (14:01:36)

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! thought I'd add a little more anger just for good measure I'm so glad you enjoyed Meggle_giggles. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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We may never

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 02, 2009 (16:54:44)

And that is the saddest reflection of all. Thank you freakyluvr, your comment is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Leggolas.


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Hi Mark,

Beautiful display of words that flow like classical music.
If man does not learn, the world will be short to exist.
Lets hope the new generation realizes the old mistakes!

Take Care,Laura (Keku)

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, October 04, 2009 (16:23:56)

Dear Laura, what a beautiful comment, that is so very much appreciated, thank you my friend. Fond Regards. Mark


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Once we think we know everything, We are doomed!

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 09, 2009 (14:54:28)

Hello babs, it's lovely to hear from you, you are so right in what you say, but I feel that man's superiority complex inflated itself beyond deflation, many, many moons ago, and as for the world, I fear it may already be doomed. Thank you for your comment my friend, it is very much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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For you I lick the screen

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 23, 2009 (16:19:03)

Wow! Now that's a compliment. Thank you Mahala. Fond Regards. Mark.


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For you I lick the screen

you are right-the world IS full of idiots..Great write! L_C

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 23, 2009 (16:22:57)

Dear Liquid_Chaos, we are as one on this subject. Thanks for the compliment my friend, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Such skilled word play in this-and truth.
ending three lines mammoth conclusion-
great piece.

We would like to link to this on our site at Poetrydances.com as a selected poem- could you pm if you are ok with that when you get a mo please.

All the best
Tony

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, October 25, 2009 (12:26:27)

Dear Poetrydances, thank you so much for your complimentary comment, it is much appreciated. I shall indeed contact you. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Interesting, I like it!

Man can only learn from his mistakes, only when he admits to making them. so there fore we may never learn. Mark, you have a defined writing style, that oozes with perfection. You are one of the true masters of this genre. May we see many more splendid verses from you. Be safe my friend. dAVE

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, October 30, 2009 (17:05:46)

Dear dAVE, that is so very true, for man seems unable, in so many instances, to comprehend that he and he alone is responsible for so many recurrent atrocities that are part of a perpetual cycle of death, suffering and destruction that has plagued mankind since conception. Is he ignorant?, or just plain stupid? Thank you for this fabulous comment. It is very much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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I do love reading your work!

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 01, 2009 (11:10:36)

Dear Mayo, your comment is truly valued and I feel honoured that you enjoy reading my poems. Thank you Fond Regards. Mark.


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wow, i really enjoy this poem, really hits home on the fact that mankind as a whole will never seem to learn from their mistakes

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 01, 2009 (14:11:41)

Dear 10afields, I'm so glad you enjoyed and found this poem to hit home, though alas Man's ignorant bliss prevails Your comment is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Leggolas.


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I'm glad you had write this piece buddy...people usually wanted to see before they believe but God wants us to believe before we see, for a miracle to happen. Bravo! jezail

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 01, 2009 (14:32:05)

Dear Jezail, thankyou for your comment my friend, it is much appreciated. Any type of Miracle, to extract that which has blighted Man since his conception would be most welcome indeed. Fond Regards. Mark.


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When will we ever learn? When we learn to leave our egos at home. Nice write Mark. I sense the frustration in your words. Powerful.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, November 02, 2009 (08:02:28)

Dear Bina, your senses we're indeed intuitive. I'm so glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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I admire the anger and emotion staggering through this piece.

That's why I love reading your work...you intensity comes through every time when you write about a subject matter which provokes your emotions...

Well done =]

NorthStar

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 (10:27:30)

Dear NorthStar, thank you so much for this inspiring comment, it is very much appreciated Fond Regards. Mark.


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Great write mark, but shouldn't that last line read just:
"Will we ever learn"

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 (10:26:07)

Dear Bato, thanks for the complimentary comment, it is much appreciated and thank you for your suggestion, but 'When' is an integral piece of the line, for it suggests the hope that there may well come a time upon Man's horizon whereby such is thus. Your opinion is always welcome my friend. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Bato on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 (10:56:37)

Sorry Mark. That was badly phrased, I didn't mean to sugest that your poem needed amending; I was commenting on what sometimes seems like our inability to learn the really big lessons. If I had thought that it needed anything changed i wouldn'r have rated it with the 10 stars I gave it.


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Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 (11:26:58)

No need for apology, I enjoy reading peoples opinions and their provocation of thought, and though that intended sometimes appears not as, it is still, as is your your comment and rating, very much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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What more can be said Mark, that already hasn't. Truly amazing poem my dear friend. Best wishes.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, November 06, 2009 (18:04:35)

Dear Disfrazada, thank you so very much for your complimentary comment. It is truly appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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That was some great food for my mind. I love all the unique words you used. You never seem to hear them in the world today. All I hear is unintelligent ways of talking, so thanks for this well composed piece.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Friday, November 06, 2009 (18:06:57)

Dear words8me, what a simply outstanding comment. Thank you!I'm so glad you enjoyed. Fond Regards. Mark.


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complete excellence

IF ONLY PEOPLE QUESTIONED THEMSELVES MORE AND THEIR EXISTANCE ON THIS PLANET , SPOKE TO THEIR NEIGHBOURS AND MADE AN EFFORT TO GET ON AND TAKE TIME TO HELP THEIR
FELLOW MAN . . . SURELY WE WOULD BE RICHER IN MIND AND SOUL . . . VANMANFURY DIGS THIS

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 08, 2009 (14:12:00)

Dear vanmanfury, yours words are indeed inspirational, but it seems that the world is turning on a new axis, revolving toward nought but despair. Thank you for your comment. It is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Sadly never Mark.......and people wonder why I am a misanthrope......LOL.......brilliant word art my friend.
Cheers.........Harry

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 08, 2009 (15:14:04)

Dear Harry, your misanthropic tendencies are totally understandable, especially in the World's current climate. Thank you so much for your comment my friend. It is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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A pure and simple big fat WOW WOW WOW
Take care mark
Shazza x

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 08, 2009 (15:16:42)

All I can say is Wow! LOL Hello shazza, thank you for stopping by and commenting, it is much appreciated. I'm so glad you enjoyed. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Hopefully one day man will stop the death and destruction. Awesome write. Loved it

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Monday, November 09, 2009 (10:48:46)

Dear HumanSpirit, I fear that day may never dawn, but thank you for your complimentary comment. It is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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a twist of tongue and mind worthy of a ten..........rondo

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 15, 2009 (07:00:43)

Dear rondo, you are most kind. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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Isnt that a sad state... We write about ourselves and crititcize ourselves but nothing really changes. I loved your poem and your intention behind Leggolas. Nice to know nice minds do exist.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 15, 2009 (11:32:31)

Dear Unbound, sadly that seems to be the state of affairs, we have travelled so far down this misguided path of existence, that the true values in life seem to have faded behind some long forgotten horizon. Thank you for your complimentary words my friend, they are much appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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The sad reality is that some people never do learn, and go to their dying day without a pang of regret and remaining completely ignorant to the wrongs that they have committed in their lives.
Very good poem touching upon these issues.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 15, 2009 (11:36:07)

Dear Craigd741, that is a true reality indeed and if only they could take a moment of solemn self reflection, that could just be the defining moment that changes their's and many other lives besides. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated. Fond Regards. Leggolas.


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i LOVE this poem. its so sad that such people still exist in our societies. this is an amazing poem.

Re: When will we ever learn? (Score: 1 ) by Leggolas on Sunday, November 15, 2009 (14:46:09)

Dear princess.funk, it is indeed sad that such people exist, if only these spewing, arousing orators had the lemming gene, then they, and all that follow their vile bile can run towards the highest clifftops and free us all of their hideous plague. Thank you for your complimentary comment, it is truly appreciated. Fond Regards. Mark.


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